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Former Member
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What conclusions would you guess at?
He said preliminary data from the train's event recorders indicated the train's brakes became fully engaged just five seconds before the locomotive came to a complete stop after the crash. In addition, he said the locomotive's throttle went to idle six seconds before the train came to a stop. |
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Former Member
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If I was driving a car I would say I took my foot off the accelerator and onto the brake because I was trying to do an emergency stop!
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bjbdbest
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David Schanoes, former deputy chief of field operations
----------------------------------------for the Metro-North line ... "I would have to see all the data from the event recorder, "Schanoes told CNN's Erin Burnett OutFront. "But clearly, from what has been captured, the train was overspeeding, and the request for emergency brake application comes too late for the train to be able to negotiate the curvature." New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo - "When the investigation concludes, we will make sure that any responsible parties are held accountable. My thoughts and prayers continue to be with the families of the victims of yesterday's crash." Train Derailment A tragedy whatever is determined  |
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Former Member
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Has resemblance with the Compostela high speed train accident earlier this year, captured on Video, with distress warning: http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/j...la-train-crash-cctv-video . 78 fatalities. Driver had 3 speed warnings: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/02/...ain-crash-driver-warnings ... too busy on the phone one report said.
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PecosRiverM
Veteran Cruncher The Great State of Texas Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Post Count: 1052 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The train was doing ~82mph in a 30mph curve.
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Former Member
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'Car-like' daze
Mr Rockefeller told emergency officials on the scene he had been "in a daze", US media reported earlier, citing law enforcement sources. He also told investigators that "he nodded. He zoned out," Mr Bottalico, chairman of the Association of Commuter Rail Employees, told Reuters. "He had the equivalent of what we all have when we drive a car," Mr Bottalico said, according to the Associated Press news agency, describing what Mr Rockefeller had related to him. |
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alged
Master Cruncher FRANCE Joined: Jun 12, 2009 Post Count: 2292 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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there shud be a system that automatically stop the train if driver is not
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Former Member
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Alged, this system exists and is fail-safe, it means any failure in the system leads the train to stop. I'm not sure if this system is implemented in North Line, it's a complex and expensive system that some operators don't deploy in their lines, depending very much on train intervals and maximum speed.
If the system is deployed in North Line (I believe it is), two causes could explain the accident. 1 - The system was isolated, i.e., not acting in the train brakes. It can be done by the train engineer, if there is a momentary fail in the system. 2 - There was a failure in the brake system. In this case, an alarm should be generated to warn the engineer, so he should be driving the train in a restrictive speed, relying on track maximum speed and track signals. In any case, the train engineer is guilty in some degree, the investigation will tell what part will be done to the train system. |
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